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		<title>Comment on Learning Styles Don&#8217;t Matter by Johnra</title>
		<link>http://newsletter.respondus.com/november-2011/learning-styles/#comment-405</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tend to agree with the author. The students that want to learn, will, regardless of the teacher, teachers style or text. Motivation is internal and its very very difficult for a teacher to compete with the multi-million dollar entertainment and productions that students are exposed to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with the author. The students that want to learn, will, regardless of the teacher, teachers style or text. Motivation is internal and its very very difficult for a teacher to compete with the multi-million dollar entertainment and productions that students are exposed to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Learning Styles Don&#8217;t Matter by Paul Multimodality</title>
		<link>http://newsletter.respondus.com/november-2011/learning-styles/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Multimodality]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked the article and I liked David&#039;s response. However, I think the learning styles theory does depend on other theoretical areas eg multiple intelligences and multimodal discourse, which don&#039;t fix an individual as &quot;a visual learner&quot;. Some applications of learning styles do just his, incorrectly in my humble opinion, but I guess this allows easy business development.

Learning one way or another has different repercussions as to the transferability of the knowledge/activity learned. You can&#039;t learn how to ride a bike with just MCQs. You can&#039;t learn how to surf the net by writing an essay. You often can&#039;t succeed in academia if you don&#039;t master how to read thick textbooks (think dyslexic students). Its about literacies, not just personal cognition.

There was a good point in the response too  - about &quot;real world&quot; factors or situatedness (see Lave and Wenger). The maths we learn at school is not necessarily the maths we use in the supermarket. The experiments done in labs reflect only controlled variable manipulation, not the everyday mix of competing variables. Social science is complex stuff. 

The authors do call for a much more robust research into learning styles and this is probably a good call. But they shouldn&#039;t really claim yet that learning styles is all junk as they only did one &quot;experiment&quot;. Interesting debate, gonna search for the methodology in the article, let&#039;s see if they tell us empirically, and exactly, how they did the experiment, as a physicist would have too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the article and I liked David&#8217;s response. However, I think the learning styles theory does depend on other theoretical areas eg multiple intelligences and multimodal discourse, which don&#8217;t fix an individual as &#8220;a visual learner&#8221;. Some applications of learning styles do just his, incorrectly in my humble opinion, but I guess this allows easy business development.</p>
<p>Learning one way or another has different repercussions as to the transferability of the knowledge/activity learned. You can&#8217;t learn how to ride a bike with just MCQs. You can&#8217;t learn how to surf the net by writing an essay. You often can&#8217;t succeed in academia if you don&#8217;t master how to read thick textbooks (think dyslexic students). Its about literacies, not just personal cognition.</p>
<p>There was a good point in the response too  &#8211; about &#8220;real world&#8221; factors or situatedness (see Lave and Wenger). The maths we learn at school is not necessarily the maths we use in the supermarket. The experiments done in labs reflect only controlled variable manipulation, not the everyday mix of competing variables. Social science is complex stuff. </p>
<p>The authors do call for a much more robust research into learning styles and this is probably a good call. But they shouldn&#8217;t really claim yet that learning styles is all junk as they only did one &#8220;experiment&#8221;. Interesting debate, gonna search for the methodology in the article, let&#8217;s see if they tell us empirically, and exactly, how they did the experiment, as a physicist would have too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Learning Styles Don&#8217;t Matter by Julie Drake</title>
		<link>http://newsletter.respondus.com/november-2011/learning-styles/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julie Drake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I winced as I read this article. I don’t know if it’s because I disagreed, or if it was simply a poignant reaction to the reality of education today. College instructors do adjust (pander?) to students. We do give them what they want, and we succumb to the guidance (coercion?) from administrators and accreditation bodies. Personally, I think much of this is driven by the for-profit universities who ARE selling degrees. They are shaking up higher education because their sole focus is on retention and outcomes. How do you retain students? You give them what they want and hope they hang on to graduation (ka-ching!). I don’t need an experiment to explain this (depressing) reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I winced as I read this article. I don’t know if it’s because I disagreed, or if it was simply a poignant reaction to the reality of education today. College instructors do adjust (pander?) to students. We do give them what they want, and we succumb to the guidance (coercion?) from administrators and accreditation bodies. Personally, I think much of this is driven by the for-profit universities who ARE selling degrees. They are shaking up higher education because their sole focus is on retention and outcomes. How do you retain students? You give them what they want and hope they hang on to graduation (ka-ching!). I don’t need an experiment to explain this (depressing) reality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Learning Styles Don&#8217;t Matter by Lisa Travis</title>
		<link>http://newsletter.respondus.com/november-2011/learning-styles/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Travis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I object to a few things in this article.  First, the author discounts experimental findings simply because they occur in an experimental setting.  As a trained social scientist, he should be aware that this is an extremely weak argument.  I believe the author&#039;s problem with the findings has more to do with reluctance to give up a cherished notion that is linked to profitable enterprise, than it does with the scientific merit of the study or its generalizability.   Second, since when do universities &quot;sell&quot; degrees?  Let&#039;s not cave in to this way of thinking or speaking.  Third, I object to the implication that today&#039;s students are infantile beings who need information to be chopped into &quot;small, bite-sized pieces so that they don&#039;t choke or spit it out&quot;.  Yes, we can probably make them into infantile beings if we treat them as such, but is this really our goal as educators?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I object to a few things in this article.  First, the author discounts experimental findings simply because they occur in an experimental setting.  As a trained social scientist, he should be aware that this is an extremely weak argument.  I believe the author&#8217;s problem with the findings has more to do with reluctance to give up a cherished notion that is linked to profitable enterprise, than it does with the scientific merit of the study or its generalizability.   Second, since when do universities &#8220;sell&#8221; degrees?  Let&#8217;s not cave in to this way of thinking or speaking.  Third, I object to the implication that today&#8217;s students are infantile beings who need information to be chopped into &#8220;small, bite-sized pieces so that they don&#8217;t choke or spit it out&#8221;.  Yes, we can probably make them into infantile beings if we treat them as such, but is this really our goal as educators?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Learning Styles Don&#8217;t Matter by Ken Hilbun</title>
		<link>http://newsletter.respondus.com/november-2011/learning-styles/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Hilbun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The journal article mentioned was referenced in several mainstream publications and blogs. I’m glad you wrote this piece because I too felt the authors ignored so many factors that go into education. I see application of their results in home schooling where parents fret over the curriculum to use. But these authors took their experimental results (which I do find interesting, btw) and over-generalized the applicability to education. It would be bad policy for mainstream educators to follow those conclusions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The journal article mentioned was referenced in several mainstream publications and blogs. I’m glad you wrote this piece because I too felt the authors ignored so many factors that go into education. I see application of their results in home schooling where parents fret over the curriculum to use. But these authors took their experimental results (which I do find interesting, btw) and over-generalized the applicability to education. It would be bad policy for mainstream educators to follow those conclusions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Students Cheat by Chaplain Acosta</title>
		<link>http://newsletter.respondus.com/september-2011/why-students-cheat/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chaplain Acosta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of the problem of cheating has to do with how tests are administered relative to real life. It is not just that people try to get away with what they can, but that most tests are, quite frankly, useless as tools of learning assessment. Most tests, if all my years of schooling up through doctoral courses is any indication, simply test students&#039; abilities to cram. Most tests do not measure a student&#039;s ability to apply gained knowledge. A partial exception is math homework. But get into algebra on up, and very little of it is worth learning for any practical purposes for most people. 

I say, let people take their notes and computers into the classroom for testing or for online work. When students get from teachers that they have to know about the material enough to apply it to contextually useful test questions, using notes and finding information will not be a problem. Why? Because you can teach facts all day long and students can memorize all day long, but real learning occurs when learners know what to do with the information they have access to.  Said differently, teachers teach cheatable courses because students are not taught to think, but to regurgitate information. Teachers should not complain about students cheating when teachers are cheating students out of an education. 

With this I will end: If a test is easy to create, then the teacher is cheating and can only expect that students will do what is easy, too. When teachers respect students, students will respect themselves and their teacher. Tests that are hard to create are very difficult to cheat on because all the notes in the world won&#039;t help a lazy student think through a test that requires him or her to think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the problem of cheating has to do with how tests are administered relative to real life. It is not just that people try to get away with what they can, but that most tests are, quite frankly, useless as tools of learning assessment. Most tests, if all my years of schooling up through doctoral courses is any indication, simply test students&#8217; abilities to cram. Most tests do not measure a student&#8217;s ability to apply gained knowledge. A partial exception is math homework. But get into algebra on up, and very little of it is worth learning for any practical purposes for most people. </p>
<p>I say, let people take their notes and computers into the classroom for testing or for online work. When students get from teachers that they have to know about the material enough to apply it to contextually useful test questions, using notes and finding information will not be a problem. Why? Because you can teach facts all day long and students can memorize all day long, but real learning occurs when learners know what to do with the information they have access to.  Said differently, teachers teach cheatable courses because students are not taught to think, but to regurgitate information. Teachers should not complain about students cheating when teachers are cheating students out of an education. </p>
<p>With this I will end: If a test is easy to create, then the teacher is cheating and can only expect that students will do what is easy, too. When teachers respect students, students will respect themselves and their teacher. Tests that are hard to create are very difficult to cheat on because all the notes in the world won&#8217;t help a lazy student think through a test that requires him or her to think.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Students Cheat by Angela R. Linse</title>
		<link>http://newsletter.respondus.com/september-2011/why-students-cheat/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angela R. Linse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be good to see citations of the substantial academic literature on academic integrity, cheating, plagiarism and students perceptions.  A quick search in ERIC results in thousands of recent publications based on both qualitative and quantitative data.  

Some of this research indicates that students cheat because they are unsure of what constitutes cheating or plagiarism, while others  feel they have no other options.  Certainly, some students are committed cheaters, but for most, it is not a deliberate economic/cost-benefit decision.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be good to see citations of the substantial academic literature on academic integrity, cheating, plagiarism and students perceptions.  A quick search in ERIC results in thousands of recent publications based on both qualitative and quantitative data.  </p>
<p>Some of this research indicates that students cheat because they are unsure of what constitutes cheating or plagiarism, while others  feel they have no other options.  Certainly, some students are committed cheaters, but for most, it is not a deliberate economic/cost-benefit decision.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Googleplex: In Search of Education’s Next Paradigm by Tara Stratton</title>
		<link>http://newsletter.respondus.com/august-2011/education-next-paradigm/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tara Stratton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I first read the headline I thought Google had finally jumped into the education market!  No such luck. 

Your 5 year old is similar to my 7 and 10 year old. They are always taking over my phone to look things up. Don’t we all anymore?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first read the headline I thought Google had finally jumped into the education market!  No such luck. </p>
<p>Your 5 year old is similar to my 7 and 10 year old. They are always taking over my phone to look things up. Don’t we all anymore?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Googleplex: In Search of Education’s Next Paradigm by Julianna Wright</title>
		<link>http://newsletter.respondus.com/august-2011/education-next-paradigm/#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julianna Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fun article! Love the analogy about students being like goats. I plan to use that one!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun article! Love the analogy about students being like goats. I plan to use that one!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Googleplex: In Search of Education’s Next Paradigm by bbt521Bonnie Thurber</title>
		<link>http://newsletter.respondus.com/august-2011/education-next-paradigm/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bbt521Bonnie Thurber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know what a googolplex is because I have been reading the book &#039;In the Plex&quot; by Steven Levy. 

When the Internet was first publicly reachable,  I fell in love with it. 
When the internet  because &quot;the web&quot; my students and I learned    together to  insert images and video. 

Now my students teach me. I simply guide their directions. 

Interesting article here.. Thanks for sharing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what a googolplex is because I have been reading the book &#8216;In the Plex&#8221; by Steven Levy. </p>
<p>When the Internet was first publicly reachable,  I fell in love with it.<br />
When the internet  because &#8220;the web&#8221; my students and I learned    together to  insert images and video. </p>
<p>Now my students teach me. I simply guide their directions. </p>
<p>Interesting article here.. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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